Pettitte, AI, And The Greatest QB Ever
(Note: A piece by Cousin Dan follows this one from Sip, and after Dan's be sure to check out the latest from Lou Monte. Last reminder: www.yankees2000.com launches tomorrow.)
How great of a QB is Eli Manning?
I mean, the guy has thrown for 442 YDS, 5 TD's and 0 INT's in the last 2 weeks in big games against potential playoff foes. We are so LUCKY to have him as QB.
All I am saying is that this is all a little further evidence of how dumb and overblown most of the New York media is. Give this guy some time, a LT, a #2 WR and allow him to throw to Shockey and he looks like a pretty good and still developing QB.
Meanwhile, two weeks after the Giants hit rock bottom and a week after the division was lost, the men in blue look primed to make a run at not only the wild card but also the division.
There isn't much better than a solid Giants win, especially after freaking out as Atlanta (-4) and up 17-6 allowed to Tampa to drive for a potentially meaningless touchdown/2 pt conversion and backdoor cover.
But watching Tony "The Messiah"/"Jesus"/"God" Romo get crushed on national TV by a guy that was cast off as an NFL starting QB only a year ago, Drew Brees, was pretty sweet.
Now the Cowboys appear vulnerable or it might just be that the Saints are pretty legit.
Did anyone else see Reggie Bush? This kid is simply unreal. He is the only player I have ever seen that makes cornerbacks look slow. The Saints have finally let this kid play and it looks like it is time for the rest of the league to be aware.
While I hate second guessing, I think we are all universal with this one. The Texans are really dumb. It was pretty sweet watching Reggie Bush and Vince Young go into Texas and do what they did. Though, Mario Williams does have speed and we here at Y2K love speed.
AI to the Knicks.
While this deal is unlikely, the Knicks just don't have enough to give up, I certainly am praying for it.
Imagine AI coming to the Knicks.
Then imagine the uber-creative Isiah Thomas playing AI-Starbury-The Franchise and that little Nate guy that loves to remind us how little he is.
We are talking a bigger melee than the Ron Artest brawl.
Punches would be thrown by any one of the four after they didn't touch the ball in consecutive posessions. As someone who is down but coming back on the NBA, this is something that would truly win me over.
AI would ask Marbury for #3. No!
Then he would ask Ewing to wear #33.NO!
AI would be so pissed off that he would refuse to wear a number. That would be pretty revolutionary and a hit on the playgrounds of NYC.
One last thing: After tonight the New Knicks could be all alone on top of the Atlantic Division at a stunning 9-14.
Or they could be in 4th, a game out of last place, at 8-15.
Go New York Go New York Go!
Pettitte Signs W/ The Yankees
And now to business. The Yankees 1yr/ $16mil with Andy Pettitte was yet again a crafty move by Brian Cashman. Instead of getting into the Barry Zito sweepstakes, he may have found a better short term option, who as every newspaper in NY has pointed out, can pitch in the media crazed NYC.
In a market of 4- and 5-year deals worth $10-12 per for 1 year, Pettite's 1 yr and $16 mil deal is obviously a financially sound decision.
It makes the Yankees better and allows them to maintain future flexibility. If this lures Roger Clemens to the Banks in '07 than the move is even better and scarier.
All in all, a great move by the Yankees.
But, like many of their moves, only the Yankees could afford to make a move like this.
The Yankees were paying $16 million dollars for their #6 Starter.
The Yankees already have Mike Mussina, Chien-Ming Wang, Unit, Carl Pavano and Kei Igawa under more than $50 million dollars worth of contracts for '07 (assuming they intend on signing Igawa -- SEE BELOW).
Pettitte essentially gets them an upgrade over Igawa or a safety net when Pavano again breaks down.
Still, even the Cubs aren't paying for a 6th starter. Only the Yankees can do this.
Unless, and it's a big unless, they are not planning on working out a deal to Kei Igawa.
After what seemed like a very questionable bid of $26 mil for the Japaneese #4 starter, everyone was left shaking their heads. Why would the Yankees cough up an average of $10mil per year for an unproven #4 starter? The answer may be that bidding on Igawa bought them a month to try and find something better.
This practice would not be moral and I doubt even legal, but it would be pretty smart.
If the Yankees "fail" to reach agreement with Igawa, then their rotation is set for '07 without the stupid Igawa deal. And it must be that if the Sox fail to reach agreement with Daisuke Matsuzaka then the Yankees could not get in trouble for "failing" to reach an agreement with Igawa.
Either way you look at it, the Yankees made a smart move, one that only they can do, with the potential of them "cheating" baseball by never having had the intention of signing Igawa.
In short, one more reason to hate them.
Finally, if any of you missed it, you should check out AFOMG's article on Pettitte from Sunday. It makes a very different argument, but is pretty f'ing spot on. The big fella is really coming into his own.
Vaya con dios.
Sip
How great of a QB is Eli Manning?
I mean, the guy has thrown for 442 YDS, 5 TD's and 0 INT's in the last 2 weeks in big games against potential playoff foes. We are so LUCKY to have him as QB.
All I am saying is that this is all a little further evidence of how dumb and overblown most of the New York media is. Give this guy some time, a LT, a #2 WR and allow him to throw to Shockey and he looks like a pretty good and still developing QB.Meanwhile, two weeks after the Giants hit rock bottom and a week after the division was lost, the men in blue look primed to make a run at not only the wild card but also the division.
There isn't much better than a solid Giants win, especially after freaking out as Atlanta (-4) and up 17-6 allowed to Tampa to drive for a potentially meaningless touchdown/2 pt conversion and backdoor cover.
But watching Tony "The Messiah"/"Jesus"/"God" Romo get crushed on national TV by a guy that was cast off as an NFL starting QB only a year ago, Drew Brees, was pretty sweet.
Now the Cowboys appear vulnerable or it might just be that the Saints are pretty legit.
Did anyone else see Reggie Bush? This kid is simply unreal. He is the only player I have ever seen that makes cornerbacks look slow. The Saints have finally let this kid play and it looks like it is time for the rest of the league to be aware.
While I hate second guessing, I think we are all universal with this one. The Texans are really dumb. It was pretty sweet watching Reggie Bush and Vince Young go into Texas and do what they did. Though, Mario Williams does have speed and we here at Y2K love speed.AI to the Knicks.
While this deal is unlikely, the Knicks just don't have enough to give up, I certainly am praying for it.
Imagine AI coming to the Knicks.
Then imagine the uber-creative Isiah Thomas playing AI-Starbury-The Franchise and that little Nate guy that loves to remind us how little he is.We are talking a bigger melee than the Ron Artest brawl.
Punches would be thrown by any one of the four after they didn't touch the ball in consecutive posessions. As someone who is down but coming back on the NBA, this is something that would truly win me over.
AI would ask Marbury for #3. No!
Then he would ask Ewing to wear #33.NO!
AI would be so pissed off that he would refuse to wear a number. That would be pretty revolutionary and a hit on the playgrounds of NYC.
One last thing: After tonight the New Knicks could be all alone on top of the Atlantic Division at a stunning 9-14.
Or they could be in 4th, a game out of last place, at 8-15.
Go New York Go New York Go!
Pettitte Signs W/ The Yankees
And now to business. The Yankees 1yr/ $16mil with Andy Pettitte was yet again a crafty move by Brian Cashman. Instead of getting into the Barry Zito sweepstakes, he may have found a better short term option, who as every newspaper in NY has pointed out, can pitch in the media crazed NYC.
In a market of 4- and 5-year deals worth $10-12 per for 1 year, Pettite's 1 yr and $16 mil deal is obviously a financially sound decision.It makes the Yankees better and allows them to maintain future flexibility. If this lures Roger Clemens to the Banks in '07 than the move is even better and scarier.
All in all, a great move by the Yankees.
But, like many of their moves, only the Yankees could afford to make a move like this.
The Yankees were paying $16 million dollars for their #6 Starter.
The Yankees already have Mike Mussina, Chien-Ming Wang, Unit, Carl Pavano and Kei Igawa under more than $50 million dollars worth of contracts for '07 (assuming they intend on signing Igawa -- SEE BELOW).
Pettitte essentially gets them an upgrade over Igawa or a safety net when Pavano again breaks down.
Still, even the Cubs aren't paying for a 6th starter. Only the Yankees can do this.
Unless, and it's a big unless, they are not planning on working out a deal to Kei Igawa.
After what seemed like a very questionable bid of $26 mil for the Japaneese #4 starter, everyone was left shaking their heads. Why would the Yankees cough up an average of $10mil per year for an unproven #4 starter? The answer may be that bidding on Igawa bought them a month to try and find something better.
This practice would not be moral and I doubt even legal, but it would be pretty smart.
If the Yankees "fail" to reach agreement with Igawa, then their rotation is set for '07 without the stupid Igawa deal. And it must be that if the Sox fail to reach agreement with Daisuke Matsuzaka then the Yankees could not get in trouble for "failing" to reach an agreement with Igawa.Either way you look at it, the Yankees made a smart move, one that only they can do, with the potential of them "cheating" baseball by never having had the intention of signing Igawa.
In short, one more reason to hate them.
Finally, if any of you missed it, you should check out AFOMG's article on Pettitte from Sunday. It makes a very different argument, but is pretty f'ing spot on. The big fella is really coming into his own.
Vaya con dios.
Sip
posted by Sippy Momo at 1:31 PM
6 Comments:
Here's the other thing about Pettitte -- how much of a steal does Glavine look like now? $4.5 million less for a guy coming off a markedly better season. Only in The Bronx.
A #6 starter? In what universe is the 2007 version of the Unit, Pavano, or this Japanese kid better than Pettitte? Andy got healthier as the season went on and put up a great last 2 months of the season. He's a reliable lefty. He's clutch. He's a stopper. He's the guy I want on the hill when we're down 0-1 in a best of 5 series. And most importantly, on a team filled with overpaid egos who have noi dea how to win, he's a winner. He's a link to the Yankees of the late 90's and, though he's far from outspoken, he commands instant respect in the lockeroom. I understand you guys get off on the Yankee-bashing, and more often than not, your arguments are somewhat valid. But this was the best $16 million dollars the Yankees could have spent this offseason.
I'm not sure I read that passage quite how you did, danny d. I think Sip's meaning was that the Yankees have now invested another $16 million in a starting pitcher, even though they already had 5 starting pitchers.
He can speak for himself, but I'm fairly positive Sip would concede that Pettitte is either the No. 3 or No. 4 starter (Wang and Mussina ahead, possibly Randy Johnson as well) in their rotation. But as it is, if they sign Igawa, which their winning bid suggested they were intent on doing, Pettitte is the sixth starting pitcher they've accumulated for their staff.
The luxury of protecting against another $10 million lost season from Pavano by signing a guy for $16/22.4 million is the exclusive domain of the Yankees (thinking off the top of my head anyway). I think Sip praised the move on its own merits sufficiently, but that his argument comes down to the following:
"All in all, a great move by the Yankees.
But, like many of their moves, only the Yankees could afford to make a move like this."
I may have misread. Either way, Pavano is a sunk cost. As is the Unit. If they want to improve, what do you expect the Yankees to do? It's not like we added to our payroll. We got rid of Sheff's huge contract for 3 guys, one of whom might join the rotation next season making the league minimum. In return, we signed Pettitte. Good trade.
And the Yankees aren't the only team who can overspend on players. What's the Mets payroll going to be going into next season... $120mm? Red Sox? Cubs? These teams can and will overspend on overpriced talent. I get it. The Yankees are the easiest target because they have the highest payroll and have been going it the longest. But these other teams are following right in their footsteps. If the Red Sox or the Mets keep losing, it won't be long until they're making Yankee-esque moves in the front office. You could argue they already are...
yeah, what AFOMG said.
The Yankees already are invested in 5 starters, Pettite being the sixth.
It may be that Unit and Pavano are sunk costs.
But, other teams cant afford to replace $28 million dollars worth of sunk costs with another $16 million asset.
Eli made AT LEAST 6 terrible throws yesterday..all in all a decent game because their were no turnovers and 3 TDs passes but look at the kinds of catches D tyree, plaxico the lazy , complaining bitch and hyperactive shockey has to make, diving all over the place. and Rich seubert(playing 3 different positions in the same game) is the man in case u all did not know . also, if u guys havenot noitced I think Scott Clark was the one that pointed out that he basically repeats the same mantra 'we need to find ways to win' every week since the beginning of this season. He is the village idiot that learned everything by rote. Archie pulled a fast one on us guys....kudos to archie. what the hell was wrong wit Jacobs yesterday? he was not producing but, more importantly, he was not talking any trash, it seemed.
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