5 Reasons Why Jeter For MVP is a JOKE..And a tribute to the NY POST
So AFOMG and I see eye to eye on most. We both are Mets fans we both grew up on the same block. I always say to myself, if I couldn’t grow up across the street from Vinny Chase, like that ZERO E, than AFOMG is a solid back up.
When it comes to our favorite New York Daily this is where the conflict begins. Of course AFOMG goes for the Times. My thoughts: a little heavy for the morning.
But after AFOMG reads the times and I watch sportscenter or perhaps a Saved by the Bell rerun (Sorry Dad), we both move on.
Only AFOMG goes for the Daily News while I go to NYC’s bible for sports and late breaking gossip, the Post.
Which is why I was ecstatic to receive a text from my old pal, son of legendary Y2K poster, the Hound, to see that Mark Hale of THE NY Post reported that Glavine would be ok and would only miss one start.
Considering this didn’t come from my main man Mike Vaccaro, a Y2k enthusiast in his own right, I give it about a 40% chance of being true. But in the end it doesn’t matter, for it ws written in a style that was quick enough that I would not lose my focus.
So when it comes to our Newspapers, FUCK AFOMG. For pretty much everything else, He cool.
One thing that we certainly agree on is the bullshit that is this Jeter for MVP hype.
Since my good pal and recent Y2k add on Cheddar Ben brought on the subject last week, the thought has not been able to elude me. DJ for mvp? Really? On that team?
The more I thought about it, the less sense that it made. There were about 10 reasons why the thought of this is a joke, but here are a few.
1. Jeter hits #2 in the order between Johnny Damon and “insert allstar here.”
This is never really discussed. DJ has arguably the second best leadoff hitter in the game (Mr. Glass of course is #1) hitting in front of him. With Damon on base and the 2b playing over to cover for a stolen base/double play, Jeter is able to hit his dink groundball thru the right side for one of his patented inside out singles.
Then, when you look behind Mr. DJ, the guy has more protection than a virgin in a condom shop. Pick your poison. 3-7 for the Yankees is an allstar team. Jeter is really the one guy you can pitch to, because if you miss on him it will most likely result in a harder hit single, as opposed to a Jason Giambi moonshot to the upper deck in right, or a Brokeback Bomb my A-Rod to anywhere in the park.
Of course Jeter is Mr. intangible/clutch/go deep in the count. But this is not that impressive. He is sandwiched between the best. We have all seen what having Carlos Delgado behind him has done for Beltran. The guy is on pace to hit 40-130. That’s a lot more impressive than 15-90.
2. He is not even the MVP of his team
This has to go to Jason Giambi. Is there a more feared back on the juice guy in baseball.
All this dude does is mash bombs and walk. He's on pace for 49,136 and a .410 OBA. With the short porch in Yankee stadium, this guy is more intimidating than a jewish girl from Long Island who just received her first AMEX card. As stated in point #1, it is Giambi behind Jeter that makes oppoising pitchers have to go right after the captain.
And seriously, has there ever been an MVP on a team with a guy hitting 50 hr's standing right behind him in the lineup. How bout 3 guys with 100 RBI?
3. There can not be an MVP from the Yankees
They have too much talent. They have lost Sheffield and Matsui this year and have never been better. Remember when Sheffield was #2 for MVP 2 years ago with Matsui close behind. You can not lose two mvp candidates and still dominate and then try to claim that the domination was the result of one insanely valuable player.
The Yankees took two stars out of their lineup and they were still great. Try taking out Manny or Big Papi from the Sox lineup. If one of them is out, that the other one does not see a single pitch all season. Take Sheffield out of the Yankee lineup and your 3-4-5 is $63 million worth or Abreu-Giambi-A-Rod.
4. The A-Rod Factor
One of the smartest things I have read in a long time. Kudos to cheddar Ben, and anti- Kudos to BOBBY Ca$hman. Seriously, if Joe Torre and Jeter are such fucking saints, how could they let this happen.
(That pic will never get old)
Has anyone seen A-Rod’s #’s? The guy is on pace to hit around 35-120. It’s not like this guy is putting up a Beltran ’05 year. But yet, at Yankee stadium, where unlikable players are praised every day, A-Rod, the most clichéd of them all (read: perfect Yankee) is booed.
5. Mauer, Thome, Ortiz, Manny, Giambi, Morneau.
There are 6 guys that should be ahead of A-Rod for MVP.
Mauer is having a better year than Jeter with a shittier team at a tougher position.
Thome=Yoke shot
Ortiz/Manny- Both will hit at least 40-130, Manny(45,132,.330) Ortiz (58,153. Ortiz is also way more likable than Jeter
Giambi- Read Above. The most feared Yankee
Morneau- Having a Gehrig like season(Projected 41,142, .317). Instead of hitting in front of or around Damon, Giambi and A-Rod, this guy has Mauer and than Michael Cuddyer, Lew Ford, Jason Bartlett, Luis Castillo and a half of a season with Torii Hunter…god the fucking Twins.
Hell throw my man Pronk in their too. That guy is slowly hitting 45-140-.310…AROD got MVP for a last place team. This guy’s team is in 4th.
Then there is Jeter (13,101,.336)
This isn't the early 90's and this isn't Terry Pendleton. Come on now.
I may come off as harsh. I’ve said before and I’ll say it again. Jeter is a star. He is the face of the game and the face of maybe the biggest franchise in the world. His intangibles and leadership have no peers, especially in our generation of me first players.
But this guy is not an MVP.
He is a great player, a better teammate and an even better ambassador to the game. But he is not the MVP of the American League.
He’s probably the 3rd most valuable player on his own team (Giambi and Rivera).
Sorry Deej.
VCD,
SM
When it comes to our favorite New York Daily this is where the conflict begins. Of course AFOMG goes for the Times. My thoughts: a little heavy for the morning.
But after AFOMG reads the times and I watch sportscenter or perhaps a Saved by the Bell rerun (Sorry Dad), we both move on.
Only AFOMG goes for the Daily News while I go to NYC’s bible for sports and late breaking gossip, the Post.
Which is why I was ecstatic to receive a text from my old pal, son of legendary Y2K poster, the Hound, to see that Mark Hale of THE NY Post reported that Glavine would be ok and would only miss one start.
Considering this didn’t come from my main man Mike Vaccaro, a Y2k enthusiast in his own right, I give it about a 40% chance of being true. But in the end it doesn’t matter, for it ws written in a style that was quick enough that I would not lose my focus.
So when it comes to our Newspapers, FUCK AFOMG. For pretty much everything else, He cool.
One thing that we certainly agree on is the bullshit that is this Jeter for MVP hype.
Since my good pal and recent Y2k add on Cheddar Ben brought on the subject last week, the thought has not been able to elude me. DJ for mvp? Really? On that team?
The more I thought about it, the less sense that it made. There were about 10 reasons why the thought of this is a joke, but here are a few.1. Jeter hits #2 in the order between Johnny Damon and “insert allstar here.”
This is never really discussed. DJ has arguably the second best leadoff hitter in the game (Mr. Glass of course is #1) hitting in front of him. With Damon on base and the 2b playing over to cover for a stolen base/double play, Jeter is able to hit his dink groundball thru the right side for one of his patented inside out singles.
Then, when you look behind Mr. DJ, the guy has more protection than a virgin in a condom shop. Pick your poison. 3-7 for the Yankees is an allstar team. Jeter is really the one guy you can pitch to, because if you miss on him it will most likely result in a harder hit single, as opposed to a Jason Giambi moonshot to the upper deck in right, or a Brokeback Bomb my A-Rod to anywhere in the park.
Of course Jeter is Mr. intangible/clutch/go deep in the count. But this is not that impressive. He is sandwiched between the best. We have all seen what having Carlos Delgado behind him has done for Beltran. The guy is on pace to hit 40-130. That’s a lot more impressive than 15-90.
2. He is not even the MVP of his team
This has to go to Jason Giambi. Is there a more feared back on the juice guy in baseball.
All this dude does is mash bombs and walk. He's on pace for 49,136 and a .410 OBA. With the short porch in Yankee stadium, this guy is more intimidating than a jewish girl from Long Island who just received her first AMEX card. As stated in point #1, it is Giambi behind Jeter that makes oppoising pitchers have to go right after the captain.And seriously, has there ever been an MVP on a team with a guy hitting 50 hr's standing right behind him in the lineup. How bout 3 guys with 100 RBI?
3. There can not be an MVP from the Yankees
They have too much talent. They have lost Sheffield and Matsui this year and have never been better. Remember when Sheffield was #2 for MVP 2 years ago with Matsui close behind. You can not lose two mvp candidates and still dominate and then try to claim that the domination was the result of one insanely valuable player.
The Yankees took two stars out of their lineup and they were still great. Try taking out Manny or Big Papi from the Sox lineup. If one of them is out, that the other one does not see a single pitch all season. Take Sheffield out of the Yankee lineup and your 3-4-5 is $63 million worth or Abreu-Giambi-A-Rod.
4. The A-Rod Factor
One of the smartest things I have read in a long time. Kudos to cheddar Ben, and anti- Kudos to BOBBY Ca$hman. Seriously, if Joe Torre and Jeter are such fucking saints, how could they let this happen.
(That pic will never get old)Has anyone seen A-Rod’s #’s? The guy is on pace to hit around 35-120. It’s not like this guy is putting up a Beltran ’05 year. But yet, at Yankee stadium, where unlikable players are praised every day, A-Rod, the most clichéd of them all (read: perfect Yankee) is booed.
5. Mauer, Thome, Ortiz, Manny, Giambi, Morneau.
There are 6 guys that should be ahead of A-Rod for MVP.
Mauer is having a better year than Jeter with a shittier team at a tougher position.
Thome=Yoke shot
Ortiz/Manny- Both will hit at least 40-130, Manny(45,132,.330) Ortiz (58,153. Ortiz is also way more likable than Jeter
Giambi- Read Above. The most feared Yankee
Morneau- Having a Gehrig like season(Projected 41,142, .317). Instead of hitting in front of or around Damon, Giambi and A-Rod, this guy has Mauer and than Michael Cuddyer, Lew Ford, Jason Bartlett, Luis Castillo and a half of a season with Torii Hunter…god the fucking Twins.
Hell throw my man Pronk in their too. That guy is slowly hitting 45-140-.310…AROD got MVP for a last place team. This guy’s team is in 4th.
Then there is Jeter (13,101,.336)
This isn't the early 90's and this isn't Terry Pendleton. Come on now.
I may come off as harsh. I’ve said before and I’ll say it again. Jeter is a star. He is the face of the game and the face of maybe the biggest franchise in the world. His intangibles and leadership have no peers, especially in our generation of me first players.
But this guy is not an MVP.
He is a great player, a better teammate and an even better ambassador to the game. But he is not the MVP of the American League.
He’s probably the 3rd most valuable player on his own team (Giambi and Rivera).
Sorry Deej.
VCD,
SM
posted by Sippy Momo at 12:05 PM
10 Comments:
little correction: Mauer has Cuddyer after him (aka strike out master) and then Morneau. I think there is no question that Morneau is the most valuable twin as he has 40 more RBIs than Mauer and numerous late game clutch hits, although there is something to be said for Mauers Strong D in opposing teams' faces
You still don't get it, Sip. "How could Jeter and Torre LET THIS happen to ARod?" What should they do, take out a full page ad in the post that asks fans to go easy on him? Go on Mike and the Maddog and ask them to stop talking about him? If this is about ARod trying to shed his perceived image as a mental midget, then this is a fight ARod is going to have to take on himself. Blaming Jeter and Torre for the way the fans treat ARod is obtuse and absurd. Just another Mets fans trying to find a crack in the armor of two standup guys...
Maybe you should listen to your boy Cheddar and take a day off from Yankee bashing. After all, we just wiped the floor with the same team that shat on you three straight times earlier this season..... remember that?
Brian C. -- Yes, the Red Sox shat on us, and yes the Yanks just shat on the Red Sox, but you and I both know baseball doesn't work like that. As I've said before, we were a Billy Wagner meltdown away from sweeping the Yankees earlier this year, and altogether the Mets and Yanks split the season series -- that's what matters, not that you guys soundly beat a team that beat us. So first off, that.
Second, the idea that Jeter is impotent here is ridiculous. He's the most respected player on the Yankees, in all of baseball probably. You know what Cliff Floyd said when Mets fans were booing Beltran that first week of the season? He told the media that if a fan boos Beltran then he or she might as well boo all of them. I'm not naive enough to think that Carlos' awesome production this year isn't the primary reason he hears cheers today. But I can tell you with absolute certainty that the day Cliff gave that quote it was already being discussed on Mets blogs. Fans were saying "Cliff's right, let's ease off this guy" instead of calling him a bum, and Cliff holds only an ounce of the sway that Jeter does. But Jeter doesn't do that (Torre might, I just don't know). Instead, he glares at A-Rod when the two of them miscommunicate on a pop-up, or he says it's not his job to defend A-Rod. Doesn't mean he's not a great team leader, just means he's failed with regard to A-Rod.
OK Brian C, you asked for it...
No, Sip, AFOMG and every one else on the blog are not saying that Torre and Jeter need to take out a full page ad in the Post or the News and say, Hey everyone, have a heart.
What they're saying (and I agree with it) is that Jeter (the human bobblehead as I call him) and Snorre need to do is give him some support in the press. True, he's not thrown under the bus by them, but when Beltran was booed, when LoDuca was having personal life problems and the press was all over them, teammates went to bat for them even if they didn't have to.
if jeter is the so-called "ambassador" of the sport (and we'll see in the few years, I think DW and Josey have a good shot at doing that), then why isn't he defending his teammate?
Oh and clever come back with "team that sh*t on you three times" - first off, it was two-and-a-half (the third game was winnable, just no offense). Let's not forget either that the Stems were one Billy Wagner meltdown away from sweeping the Yank-mees.
Btw, didn't the Sox blow away the Marlins in interleague play in 2003...hmmmm...and by the way, who won that year...hmmmm? Remind me, huh?
Not saying it means anything, past is past, but it means ANYTHING can happen.
AFOMG, I guess we posted at the same time and great minds think alike :-)
Yankee fans hold ARod to a higher standard, boo him when he doesn't reach it, and we're labeled spoiled, irrational, and ungrateful. At the same time, Yankee bashers feel it necessary to reluctantly place Jeter on the proverbial pedestal and then take every shot possible to knock him off... even during a potential MVP season.
Hypocracy lives at Y2K
As anyone in a low-payroll fantasy league can tell you, Justin Mourneau is the AL MVP this year.
Jesus cashamn a bit of hypocrisy on a fan blog for the team and against the hated cross town team, stop the f'n presses. You should definately keep bringing up these examples, because it will probably lead to all of us Mets fans taking your side and becoming Yankees fans. This isn't Michael Kay babbling as a complete homer on tv or the radio to the general public, it is a Pro-Mets Anti-Yankees Blog. Take it for what it is worth. I read your comments and you occassionally say something of merit. Congrats. The fact remains, the Yankees are still a bunch of stiff overpaid a-holes who are only likeable to frontrunners and little boys who's daddies told them how much fun it was too watch mantle and dimmagio in the good ol' days.
what about when the yankees had paul oneill, scott brosius, chad curtis, tino, jeter was still the same. besides the mets play in a sub 500 league, and even if the yankees lost i would want the mets to win because i live in ny. im not that big of a douche to root for the redsox when i live in ny. met fans should move to boston.
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